Posts tagged Testing
Sabayon Linux 5.4RC1 GNOME/KDE {>=20100917-DAILY} Testing Release
Hi everybody,
this is the first time our final release phase is being worked out
publicly
YAY
Let me spend some words on how it works: our staff is going to
“virtually tag” a particular DAILY ISO image version as “Release
Candidate”.
In our case, “Release Candidate” means that some things may or may not
work because they haven’t been tested yet, and these ongoing
iterations are just meant to address this.
This is not a Press Release but just a way to let everybody contribute
to our release plan in Subject.
~~~ Where to get DAILY ISO images?
At http://www.sabayon.org/download you will be able to find DAILY iso
images inside the “iso/daily” directory. Make sure that the .iso image
file version is greater or equal than the target version in the curly
brackets in the subject of this e-mail. Our staffers have direct
access to fresh DAILY ISO images, which are rebuilt every 24 hours.
Unfortunately, due to bandwidth matters, we cannot let everybody
access them faster than the public ISO images sync frequency (see
below).
~~~ How can you help us?
By downloading any of the *{x86,amd64}_{G,K}.iso files, checking it’s
md5sum to make sure your download is not corrupted. Every report MUST
be followed by detailed information in order to help us to spot the
issue. If you are unsure about what logs have to be attached, just ask
us here or on IRC. If your report is incomplete, it will be just
thrown away, feeding the World’s bitbucket.
~~~ What’s the ISO images update frequency?
We sync public ISO images every 3 days.
~~~ What to test?
We have a tracking bug at our Bugzilla:
https://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1797
Don’t comment directly to that bug but rather click on the blocker
bugs to see what has been already reported to not work. Anything you
report on bugzilla related to these testing cycle has to block the bug
at URL above.
If you don’t know how to report things on Bugzilla, then you might not
be the right person in the right place.
~~~ How do I know what specific DAILY version is bound to a specific
Release Candidate?
Just watch this map:
>=20100917 => 5.4RC1
Let the fun begin now!
–
Fabio Erculiani
Testing Sabayon, Get Involved
A quick little guide on helping and getting involved with the future releases of Sabayon. I know and see people asking what they can do to be more involved in Sabayon. If you have some experience, time and capabilities, you can help test the weekly iso images or add the entropy limbo repository and test packages. I wouldn’t recommend this for or on your production system. You can and will run into broken stuff, but that is the fun in testing! I like to use rsync as it saves on bandwidth of having to re-download the entire ISO. With rsync you only download the changes. So how does one do this you may ask. It’s pretty easy, find a mirror on our download page that supports rsync.
Let’s for example use Italy – Garr mirror. You will notice rsync://na.mirror.garr.it/sabayonlinux [1000Mbit/sec].
This is what you are looking for. I myself have created in my home directory two directory structures /home/wolfden/isos/x86 and /home/wolfden/isos/64. You have the option to rsync the entire directory which will grab all the iso images from the server. I do not want to do that. I only want the 64 bit ones as that is all I use. So I rsync the Gnome and KDE editions of the x86_64 isos. You will have to decide what you want to do. Either do all or pick the one(s) you want.
Now I just need to run a simple command via terminal:
rsync –progress -av rsync://na.mirror.garr.it/sabayonlinux/iso/daily/Sabayon_Linux_DAILY_x86_G.iso /home/wolfden/isos/x86 (it’s a double dash in front of progress)
That will go out and fetch the iso file and place it into the directory. I always grab the md5 file also and check the iso image. Just like this:
rsync –progress -av rsync://na.mirror.garr.it/sabayonlinux/iso/daily/Sabayon_Linux_DAILY_x86_G.md5 /home/wolfden/isos/x86
than to verify
md5sum -c Sabayon_Linux_DAILY__x86_G.iso
Now that you have the file, in the future when you run the above commands, it will update your iso and md5 by downloading only the changes instead of the entire iso file again. You can of course download your first iso(s) off the ftp side of the server and move it to the correct directory and than run the rsync. As long as the iso and path all point correctly it will update.
If you want to download all the isos, you can simple do something like:
rsync –progress -av rsync://na.mirror.garr.it/sabayonlinux/iso/daily/ /home/wolfden/isos
That will grab everything in the directory. To get a directory listing:
rsync –list-only rsync://na.mirror.garr.it/sabayonlinux/iso/daily/
I like to use unetbootin and a flash drive for testing iso. Save a blank cd/dvd-r and use a flash drive if you can.
Maybe you don’t want to test iso(s) and just want to test packages. We have the entropy limbo repository that is the testing ground for packages before they get moved into the main line repository. One of the entropy team members will give a shout out here and there for specific testing of limbo packages even. You can enable the limbo repository through sulfur or by editing the /etc/entropy/repositories.conf, please see our wiki for that. Also make sure you are on the Sabayon Dev Mailing List to stay in touch with announcements and changes for testing. Getting on the Dev ML should be your first step.
So now you are testing and find an issue or bug and need to report it. You can use the Sabayon Dev ML, Sabayon Bugzilla or discuss testing in the special forum section devoted to just testing. When reporting, try to keep in mind a few important things that are needed:
- Which Sabayon Linux are you running – x86, x86_64, gnome, kde, core ?
- How to reproduce the issue? Give us the steps on what you did to get the issue(s) so we can try and reproduce it.
- Any and All Log files that pertain to the issue.
- Hardware List
The more information you submit, the easier it is for us and there is no cat and mouse chasing to get the required information. Stating that the latest entropy limbo update crashed your desktop isn’t what we want to see. Reports like that are usually deleted as they are useless. So try and remember that the more information you can give, the better. Someone will usually try and recreate the issue to confirm or deny the issue. Feel free to confirm or deny the issue(s) as they are posted.
Being a tester is usually for experienced users and you usually don’t want to run it as your main operating system. Some ask that they don’t have enough hard drive space to test and want to know if they can use Virtual Box. Yes you can. We need all aspects tested. This includes things like virtualization, running it in live mode, and doing actual installs. New users are gonna get their first impression from the Live mode, so we need that working flawlessly. I like to use unetbootin for this. Just let us know how you are running it, again, the more information you can provide, the better. Test anyway you can and help make a stronger Sabayon and be apart of that.
Thanks to all that do already and will be in the future.
Sabayon 5.3 Progress, Get Involved with Testing, Bumps
It must be about time for an update, tough to blog when summer is here. 5.3 is in the works and is at a RC2 status. Some of the changes include bug fixes of course, btrfs support, mono removed from grub and installer fixes. Keep in mind that btrfs is very young in development and should not be used in a stable environment. I did try it out in a virtual box setting and it seemed to work good for the little bit of time I worked with it. Mitch follows the progress of it and has been a good source for information. It sounds like in kernel 2.6.36 things will even be better for btrfs. I’ll have to try and keep an eye on it myself, seems promising.
We do have on the public mirrors a weekly build that anyone can download and test. We do have a special forum section setup for discussion, reporting, etc. You can also use our dev-ML to report stuff. You can also use our bugzilla, just make the proper selection when reporting. When reporting, please give as much information as you can, including any and all logs, version and how to reproduce. If we don’t get enough information we have to dismiss the report, which is frustrating to the devs and to the users. If you are interested in helping the community and devs, this is a great opportunity to test and report. We started out with daily isos for testing, but it consumes a lot to do that, so we decided to go weekly. It sounds like every Sunday at 5AM, (GMT+1, currently UTC+0200) a new iso will be available. If things change, we will let yas know. I do hope to see more users testing these isos.
Seeing people having problems with boot splash disappearing after updates. Fabio reports it’s an upstream bug and simply need to do”
equo update && equo install lvm2 && reboot
<after reboot>
equo install linux-sabayon && reboot
I hope that fixes that issue. As far as seeing a red, green, deformed image on boot, we are still looking at that as it only seems to effect some. I have not seen this problem on my machine. Joost has it happening on his machine tho. Nvidia vs. ATI, corrupt image or simply aliens running amok. I don’t know, but sooner or later it will present itself.
Core-cd ran into a problem when anaconda dropped support with the text installer. Some of the solutions we are tinkering with is a light weight wm like flux to boot into and run the gui installer or try to patch it so it can work like it use to. I haven’t had time to try out a weekly core-cd test iso lately, but it sounds like flux is what we are using on it right now. As far as I know and assume, it doesn’t actually install flux when the install is done, but I could be totally wrong on that. We will have to see what happens with this little adventure.
A few days ago there was a bump in virtual box and some seem to be having issues running it. I can not reproduce the issue myself. I’ve been suggesting equo install virtualbox-modules virtualbox-bin && reboot and it works for some. If that don’t work than I am wondering what kernel you are using. Remember kernel upgrades are not automatically pulled, you have to tell equo to install the latest kernel. You should be able to do this simply with equo update && equo install linux-sabayon && equo upgrade. The last part is important to pull the matching modules/drivers or if you know which modules/drivers you have, you can install just them. If you don’t reinstall the drivers/modules after a kernel update, you will have a bad experience upon reboot. The latest kernel in entropy is 2.6.33 and 2.6.34 is being worked on.
A quick note about entropy. It’s important to always make sure you have the latest entropy. When you see the message that there is a new entropy version and it’s important to install that first, it’s not kidding. You can solve a lot of issues by making sure you always have the latest entropy. If you want, you can simply remember to do equo update && equo install entropy equo sulfur && equo upgrade once a day. You can’t go wrong and than you will always have the latest entropy before doing updates. If you find entropy a bit aggressive on packages being pulled, try the –relaxed option, for example: equo install foo –relaxed That should pull lesser packages and if you are still not happy, try –nodeps like equo install foo –nodeps. Note that – is two hypens, sometimes on wordpress the hypens look like one. Hopefully that will help some out.
Sabayon Linux 3.5 RC1 Testing
Sorry for the lack of posts lately, but Summer is here, time to get outside and enjoy it too.
Sabayon Linux 3.5-R1 is under way for the core-beta team and getting closer to a final release of 3.5. Not a lot of reports have come in yet from the beta team, but we did run into a couple issues right off the bat and lxnay is on the case via our reports. 3.5 is probably going to be the best release to date. The installer in 3.5 gives you way more control. There will be no room to complain about too much stuff being installed now. Select your desktop and than use the individual package selection to choose what you want. You still have the option to use the core install to basically build from CLI for the real gurus. The inclusion of Entropy package manager is a dream come true for many. The documentation on it is still a bit sketchy as it is still in beta and keeps on getting better each time lxnay works on it. I hadn’t tried Entropy in several months, only when it was first introduced and I did not care for it. Since than it has improved greatly and now even has a GUI called Spritz and has a tray notification of when new updates are available. I should mention that Entropy is the binary side of Sabayon Linux. This means you do not have to compile your packages and they will install much faster. You don’t have to worry about dependencies and libraries going missing as Entropy has intelligence to maintain your complete system. Don’t get me wrong tho, the user can still create a mock if they are not paying attention. This is just common sense with anything and so many new users need to learn the system.
Many of you have already seen the new artwork for 3.5 through the update process. It’s a love hate thing from what I am seeing. People either love it or absolutely hate it. IMHO Sabayon Linux artwork for the past two releases now are over done with same color. There is no contrast/accents and all blends together making it difficult to see things. Last theme was red on red and now we have blue on blue. You have to admit tho, the blue is a lot easier on the eyes than the red. I agree it needs improvement and we need themes to be able to satisfy everyone.
There has been a discussion in irc a couple times about getting various people to contribute artwork and start a community art repo that offers various themes. It would be nice to see the community to become more involved. We have over the last month or so gained a few more people in helping with maintaining and coding. I do hope in time we see more and more devs coming aboard. I think with 3.5 release the Gentoo community will have to admit that Sabayon Linux is not a leech and is a very serious distro that helps benefit Gentoo. I see more and more Gentoo users giving Sabayon Linux a try all the time.
Anyway, we are expecting a 3.5-R2 and if no problems, I would expect the final.
